This page contains all the messages put onto the BSN Stereo Chat Board during January, 1999. They are in chronological order from first to last. To search for specific topics, use the "find" utility on your browser. For a search of the complete archives, please go to the Stereo Chat Board Archives Main Page.
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Name: Mike Arcidiacono From: NYC Time: 1999-01-01 03:32:48 Comments: This just in from EXCITE entertainment web page::: Desi Arnaz jr, and Billy Hintske, 2/3 of the '60s teen idol combo Dino, Desi and Billy,will release their first recording in over 29 years. The Cd will feature 10 NEW songs recorded by Desi on Drums, Billy on Guitar, and other session musicians, and Warner Bros/Reprise will provide 5 unreleased songs from their heyday that the group always wanted to be released. Altho I am a big D,D&B fan, I wish they would reissue the groups Reprise LPs before they go to the unreleased stuff. The Cd on Sundazed was terrific, but they missed some great tracks like "Without Hurtin' Some" and "Turn Down Day". Still, I'm happy to see anything by this group make it to Cd.....thanks Warner Bros!!! Mikey |
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Name: Doug Jones From: West Friendship,MD Time: 1999-01-01 13:14:00 Comments: The relatively new 2-CD EMI Import "The Essential & Collectable Bobby Vee" is a stereo letdown. The booklet claims 46 of the 50 tracks are stereo. The liner notes written by Booby Vee claim that engineer Eddie Brackett "was most excited about the stereo versions and thanks to him, nearly everything was mixed down to the stereo masters that you are hearing here." Unfortunately, there is much mono and rechanneled stuff: "Where Is She" and "How To Make a Farewell" , previously available only on a 45, are mono or possibly rechannelled. "Run Like The Devil" and "Every Little Bit Hurts" are mono, having been in wide stereo on vinyl. "Butterfly" may qualify as first time stereo, buts it's a muddled sound with instruments to one side and voice sort of in the middle. I believe this is the first appearance of "Bobby Tomorrow" in stereo. Even "Rubber Ball" is a near mono mix. Some of the previously unreleased cuts are stereo, however. There's also a funny typesetting error on the front of the CD booklet. |
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Name: Joel Goldenberg From: Montreal Time: 1999-01-01 21:27:59 Comments: Hi y'all! Just got back from Florida, the warmest place in Canada and the U.S. I got three grreat albums I couldn't get in Montreal- The Beach Boys' Ultimate Christmas, the Bacharach box set (sounds great, but some mono which could have been stereo, especially Gene McDaniels) and a strange new and long James Brown album. My brother got a Carpenters remaster of their 1981 Made In America album. It sounds good, but we don't have the previous CD to compare it to. We have others, and some don't sound too good. My question is, is there a major differene between the Carpenters, Billy Joel and other recently remastered CDs, and the first pressings on CD? Or are we being bamboozled? By the way, why in God's name didn't Billy Joel put Honesty on his greatest hits? He had three chances, and plenty of CD room! See ya! |
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Name: Paul Bigelow From: Austin, TX Time: 1999-01-01 23:40:54 Comments: DVD audio discs worry me. The discs have the possibility of region encoding. Unless the manufacturers decide not to use the region encoding (HA!), goodbye imports! |
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Name: Dave Mack From: Salem, Ma (The Witch City) Time: 1999-01-02 11:24:59 Comments: A while back there was some question as to the claim made by Tom Daly about Anita Bryants Columbia material being the HITS and in stereo. Let me tell you that when Tom says it's the Hit, BELIEVE HIM. I was at his Skyline studios a few weeks before Christmas. We together A&B'd both the Columbia lp Greatest hits vs the Carlton 45's. They ARE the same! I don't know where anyone is coming from claiming they are not. Even the mix is identical except the lp is stereo. If infact that lp had been mastered to CD then they are the original hits. This brings me to one question. Considering who she is and what she said years ago, that most oldies stations wouldn't play her records with a common pin, why would anyone care about her songs. I wouldn't play or program them in ANY format. Even the MOYL stations shun her records.. Happy New Year to all.. Dave Mack |
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Name: Ken Garland From: la Time: 1999-01-02 12:35:13 Comments: I am not concerned with what she said, if i used that criteria i would have to get rid of most of my collection. |
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Name: Luke Pacholski Website: LukPac.org From: Racine, WI Time: 1999-01-02 16:20:24 Comments: Re: ABKCO - Owning a domain name does not necessarily entail having a website - ie, I could still have an email address at lukpac.org and not have a website. At any rate, I believe Jody is Allen Klein's daughter and is in charge. I did get something back from them once, regarding stereo Stones, but it wasn't from her - however, she must have given it to someone who did handle that type of stuff. |
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Name: Mike Raphone Time: 1999-01-02 17:10:49 Comments: Jody is a guy.... |
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Name: Lynn Marshall From: california Time: 1999-01-02 20:50:26 Comments: I've heard that Sony & Chers I Got You Babe is in stereo on the Buster CD soundtrack, but that it is sequenced with another song, one song overlaps another. Any other cd have this song in stereo with the overlap. I was disappointed that The Beat Goes On Rhino/Atco CD had so much mono, yuk! |
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Name: Paul Allen From: North Carolina Time: 1999-01-02 22:15:53 Comments: I have the Buster CD, and although the tracks are very tightly spaced, you can get a clean start by selecting the track number, and it is in Stereo! |
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Name: CHAS Time: 1999-01-03 02:30:18 Comments: With the inevitable infinite irresistible DVD invasion,does anyone else envision the expostfacto effect on the desirable "Out-Of-Print" CDs? Without any less haste,one should obtain all the "In Print" Cds one wants now while they are still obtainable? Sncerely,Chas.Esq. |
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Name: chas Time: 1999-01-03 05:22:56 Comments: TOUCHE & KUDOS! TO MIKE R. |
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Name: Paul Stoddard Website: From: Boston, MA Time: 1999-01-03 11:57:56 Comments: To amplify and expand on what Chas and Paul Bigelow had to say about DVD audio, I'd like to offer the following additional information. In addition to the region code, there is also provision in the DVD spec for an expiration date! So, first we have no more imports because of the region coding, and then we have DVDs that might not even play after a certain date. Now, implementing these region and expiration schemes is going to take cooperation from the hardware manufacturers. This is not impossible, since the DVD players on the market now currently enforce the region scheme. Since there is not yet a definite specification for DVD audio discs, the current crop of DVD players probably won't be able to play them when the discs do finally arrive. Consumers will have to either get a modification to their existing players, purchase an outboard converter, or get a new DVD player that can handle DVD audio. This gives the record companies the chance to sneak the expiration date scheme into the new discs and the opportunity to get it implemented in the hardware end of things. Remember that most of the major record companies either own or have strategic business alliances with one or more of the major equipment manufacturers. Personally, I think this is a done deal and that the next generation of DVD players will handle both audio and video, with region and expiration schemes enforced. The record companies didn't count on the rate of technology advances with the CD. They didn't envision the CD-R and how cheap it would become. So, they're taking no chances with DVD. The CD had provision for SCMS bits, which would prevent direct digital copying on home machines, but these were rarely, if ever, used. You can be sure that some such copy prevention scheme will be in place on DVD audio discs, and also supported by the hardware. The CD won't be dying out overnight. The new DVD players will support the CD format for years to come. It's also entirely possible that DVD audio may turn out to be a commercial dud, like the mini-disc and the digital compact cassette (DCC). Anyone who has a sizeable investment in CDs is not going to want to repurchase their whole collection on DVD. There's a good chance that many of the titles that were released on CD may never surface on DVD. However, I do agree that, if there are CD titles that you've been holding off on purchasing, it might be a good idea to get them now. Nothing is going to prevent the record companies from trying to shove the audio DVD down our throats. A perfect example of this can be seen in the video sales arena where inferior DVD movies have all but displaced the superior Laser Disc versions in the marketplace. We CD collectors have it better than the vinyl collectors, however. With the proliferation of CDR recorders, it will be relatively easy to get perfect copies of out-of-print CDs from fellow collectors. |
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Name: Barry Cashion From: Mooresville, NC Time: 1999-01-03 13:56:07 Comments: Here's something that I've been wondering about, and that I don't believe has been directly addressed here (or not lately, anyhow)... I wonder what the chances are of us ever getting the original US Capitol versions of the Beatles' albums on CD? I remember reading somewhere that the surviving Beatles want only the British editions on CD, which I suppose is kind of understandable considering the "butchering" and rearranging of songs that was done on the US versions. But it would be SO nice to get their stuff on CDs in the original US running order and sounding just like it used to on the LPs; I think I could put up with the electronic retouchings and the songs that were originally rechanneled just to get all of those earlier things in stereo! Or maybe they could replace the rechanneled songs with stereo where it exists, or mono in the few early cases where it doesn't. There are two ways they could release them that would be wonderful: either put the mono AND stereo mixes of an LP on each CD, or put two stereo LPs on each CD and put them out as "two-fers". (That'll probably never happen, though... Much more money can be made selling them separately...) With all of the playing time that is available on a CD, this would probably be possible, though. Just some wishful thinking... In any case, I've never been totally clear on just who has the final say as to what is released; do the three surviving Beatles (and possibly Yoko Ono) have a say in the matter, or is it totally under the control of EMI UK and/or Capitol US? |
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Name: Jerry From: Las Vegas, NV Time: 1999-01-03 17:07:06 Comments: For a few years, I've been looking for 2 CD's by Rebbie Jackson..."Centipede" and "Reaction." Were they ever released on CD? Thanks! |
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Name: Mike Arcidiacono From: nyc Time: 1999-01-03 18:30:15 Comments: For Barry Cashion: The Capitol versions of the Beatles US Lps ARE available as bootlegs from Beat Records. They are called, Logically enough, "The Capitol Versions". Sonically, they are excellent, IF you like The Capitol versions better than the English ones. Personally, I hate all the trash can reverb that they threw on, and I also hate the use of electronic stereo on tracks that EMI HAD in true stereo, like "This Boy" (sounds dreadful on the Capitol, in fantastic true stereo on the MFSL set.) But they are available, all the US lps are represented. I've got a few and I do listen to then now and again. Hope this helps. Mikey |
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Name: Luke Pacholski Website: LukPac.org From: Racine, WI Time: 1999-01-03 23:24:34 Comments: Re: Beatles - First of all, while EMI/Capitol has exclusive rights to release the material (they own it), any release must be approved by the Beatles/Apple. As far as the Capitol versions go, I would much rather see the UK versions re-released, with both mono and stereo versions up through Pepper (they would both fit on one CD with in some cases room to spare). I personally see no use for the mono versions (of the early material, anyway), but some people assert that the early twin track material shouldn't be released in stereo... |
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Name: CHAS Time: 1999-01-04 02:52:55 Comments: Barry, I agree with you. I own virtually every "Beatle Cd "released. "The Capitol Versions" on the "Beat" Bootleg Releases are Identical to the Original LPs with Incredible Sound Quality! The point here is: We REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL AMERICAN SINGLES AND LPs AS THEY WERE PLAYED ON THE RADIO HERE IN AMERICA! THE AMERICAN RELEASES PUSH A :NOSTALGIC BUTTON IN OUR MEMORIES, WHICH IN MY CASE MAKES ME FEEL GOOD TO REMEMBER THE FEELINGS I HAD WHEN I FIRST HEARD THEM ON THE RADIO IN 1964-1970. WHY DO THEY PUT OUT "ON THE RADIO" COMPILATIONS, BECAUSE THS IS WHAT WE HEARD WHEN THE SINGLES WERE FIRST RELEASED AND PLAYED ON THE RADIO! WE ARE TALKING "OLDIES" NOT YOUNGIES! THE YOUNGIES DONT CARE WHAT VERSION IS PUT OUT TODAY BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT THERE TO HEAR THEM FIRST HAND AND THEIR MEMORIES ARE OF A DIFFERENT VEIN. |
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Name: Bob Olivia From: Burbank, California Time: 1999-01-04 02:57:18 Comments: Sent my email to Jody at ABCKO, no resonse yet. To Lynn Marshall, "I Got You Babe" in true stereo on Rock N Roll Relix series 1964-65 put out by Polygram 1996, they are still available; no overlapping. Does anyone know which oldies rock and roll group lead singer just past away? Bob . |
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Name: CHAS Time: 1999-01-04 03:10:34 Comments: JOHNNY MOORE ONE OF THE FORMER LEAD SINGERS OF THE "DRIFTERS" DIED ON NEW YEARS DAY. |
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Name: Luke Pacholski Website: LukPac.org From: Racine, WI Time: 1999-01-04 11:12:51 Comments: Chas, re: On the other hand, The Beatles/George Martin/EMI never approved of the US tracklistings and compilations. The UK albums and lineups are what the Beatles themselves intended to release. Just to put another spin on things... |
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Name: Martin G. (Marty) Blaise Website: The Blaise Page From: Houston, Texas where it's finally 32 degrees! Time: 1999-01-04 17:53:58 Comments: May everyone have a healthy and prosperous 1999. While searching through some old LPs the other day, I came across some various artists albums that were put out by radio stations such as KILT, WFIL, etc. in the late 1960s and possibly early 1970s. As far as I can remember, the stereo content on these types of albums is so-so with mostly the common stereo stuff in stereo. These were those kinds of albums that had all the disk jockeys pictured and what shift they ran on the AM radio station. Has anyone found any of these albums to have any unusual stereo content? Songs that were big locally but not nationally? Are any of these radio station issued albums collectors items? I think there are a few stations now issuing CDs in a similar fashion, although the music obviously is a lot different (except for the Dick Bartley issues, etc.). These various artists albums were sold to the public, I believe, not like the albums and CDs issued to radio stations only (where there are songs in true stereo and not available anywhere else). I found it interesting to see how the hairstyles have changed in the last 25 to 35 years from those album mug shots of the deejays. Maybe there's a radio station various artists LP lurking somewhere that has a couple of stereo finds. Maybe not. Just some thoughts to start off the new year. |
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Name: Pat Downey From: Boulder, CO Time: 1999-01-04 19:22:16 Comments: On December 6, Steve Massie posted a note regarding the Adam Wade cd on Collectables containing all original Coed hits. I disagree and say that these are either alternate takes or rerecordings. Listen to the song "As If I Didn't Know" and the way Adam sings the word "somebody" at :40 into the song. Compare the 45 and the cd and you will hear the difference. On the song "Take Good Care Of Her" listen to the line "For I Couldn't Bear To..." which appears from 1:43 to 1:46. Again compare the cd to the 45 and you will hear that they are not the same. |
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Name: CHAS Time: 1999-01-04 21:13:20 Comments: Luke: Spin Out Please, Regardless,THE BEATLES sure enjoyed the HUGE PROFITS FROM THE SALES IN AMERICA!!! To Me Personally I RELATE TO THE AMERICAN RELEASES. |
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Name: Mike Callahan Website: Both Sides Now From: Fairfax Station, VA Time: 1999-01-04 22:34:44 Comments: Hi, everyone, This is to alert you that we are currently actively working on the 3rd Edition of Oldies on CD, and are actively seeking information from our readers and chat board friends on CDs we haven't reviewed. If you would like to participate in this research, drop us an e-mail note listing the CDs for which you can send us info. We'll get back telling you which ones we still need info on (we have thousands reviewed since the last edition, so if you don't see it in the 2nd edition, we may or may not have the info, and we don't want you to have to do work for nothing.) Everyone who sends us information we need will be given acknowledgement in the book. For those who send us over 150 CDs that we accept (latecomers may be beaten to the punch on specific CDs by their early bird friends), we will send a free copy of the book when it comes out, which will hopefully be by summer of this year. Format should be the same as shown on the reviews pages on this website. For those who are curious, Issue #50 of the Newsletter will be out within two weeks. Happy New Year Mike |
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Name: Marty Wekser From: Los Angeles Time: 1999-01-05 02:49:09 Comments: Regarding Adam Wade and the comments by both Pat Downey and Steve Massie... I worked at Epic Records in A&R at the time Adam Wade's Coed masters were released on Epic. To my knowledge, Adam re-recorded the vocals using the original tracks and these were then remixed. This is why there are subtle variations in performance but not in the tracks. Also, the stereo version of "Take Good Care Of Her" features the lead vocal out slightly further in the mix than on the original. While it would be nice to hear the original stereo masters, I don't think they are significantly different that what is out on Collectables and I doubt anyone would release a new package at this point in time. (Unless we hear differently from Tom Daly at Skyline), this should put the matter to rest. At least for now! i |
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Name: Steve Baird From: B.R., Luzianna Time: 1999-01-05 19:24:13 Comments: RE: Various. I am impressed by Paul Stoddard's perceptive view of things to come digitally. Paul, you are right on: SACD, DVD-Audio, whichever, it mox nix unless and/or until the owners of the original analog tapes go back to square one and do it all over again. But wait, there's more. What to do in 2010 when the industry determines that 24/96 just doesn't cut it? Will we be hearing from the industry that we need 36 bit at 128 kHz? If you think not, think again. As for the various postings of late about the BEATLES, I hate to sound like a salesman for FI magazine, but the February issue arrived today, and there is on page 85 an article by Allan Kozinn entitled DIGITAL BEATLES TAKE TWO. For the cognoscenti, Señor Kozinn provides tacit acknowledgement on certain Beatles issues known by some who frequent this space; and de-mystifies other thoughts too. A good read, but wishful thinking, thought I. |
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Name: Charles G. Hill Website: Chez Chaz From: Dustbury, Oklahoma Time: 1999-01-05 19:59:32 Comments: Following up on Marty Blaise's suggestion, I turned up four of these radio-station compilations on my shelf. What I found: KTSA (San Antonio) All Time Golden Hits, Vol. II: Mostly rechanneled stuff, but Brenton Wood's "Oogum Boogum" is in stereo, as is "Let It Out" (aka "Let It All Hang Out") by the Hombres. This is also the only place I've seen Kenny O'Dell's "Beautiful People" in stereo. WPOP (Hartford) Hear Here, Vol. 2: Almost everything rechanneled, including the Hite Morgan version of "Surfer Girl". WOR FM 98.7 (NYC) Solid Gold: A morass of lousy sound from Post Records. The most interesting thing here is "Can't Find the Time to Tell You" by Orpheus, which I timed just now at 3:00. WKY/93 (Oklahoma City) Old Gold: This has the fairly smallish hits "You I" by the Rugbys (rechanneled) and "Fire" by Five By Five (in stereo), and the 45 version of "Little Green Bag" by the George Baker Selection (rechanneled). In the Age of Abkco, I feel compelled to point out that "96 Tears" is here also. |
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Name: Luke Pacholski Website: LukPac.org From: Racine, WI Time: 1999-01-05 20:45:03 Comments: Steve, re: Interesting - I'll have to pick up that article. Allan is usually on the money about stuff like that. For any of you interested, I'd urge you to search out his interview with George Martin in 1987 when the CDs first came out. Of course you have to filter through Martin's ramblings, but...:) BTW, is 'FI' the name of the magazine? |
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Name: CHAS Time: 1999-01-06 00:22:30 Comments: Luke:I read that article in 1987. Please explain to me how a bootleg can surpass the sound quality of any legit Beatles CD release. Been there, done that; enough said. |
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Name: Barry Cashion From: Mooresville, NC Time: 1999-01-06 10:53:14 Comments: For Charles G. Hill: Kenny O'Dell's "Beautiful People" has also appeared in stereo on Vol. 3 of the "Sunshine Days" CD series from Varese... |
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Name: Steve Baird From: Baton Rouge Time: 1999-01-06 13:18:21 Comments: RE: HDCD. I was reading in an audiophile magazine about the Pacific Microsonics HDCD chip found in some CD players. One writer said that those 4 extra bits on the software are used to provide all sorts of info to the chip such as spatial locations in it, or dynamic contrasts. He then described the sound of a particular HDCD encoded disk when played through a standard player. Amazed was I upon buying this CD (Mephisto & Co. on the Reference Recordings label) to find how accurately described was this sound! This leads me to ask if anyone has had any experience with this technology -- either as a producer such as Tom Daly or as a mere consumer. As it turns out, there are thousands of CDs available using this format. For those inquiring minds that want to know more, go to www.hdcd.com for a closer look. |
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Name: Bob Olivia From: Burbank, California. Time: 1999-01-08 03:21:33 Comments: Could it be possible that ABKCO won't release the Cameo/Parkway music is that will have to pay royalties to all the artists who have been shafted all these years? The Kingsman lawsuit may be the answer. Let's here what Luke has to say. Bob. |
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Name: Christopher Kissel From: Long Island, NY Time: 1999-01-08 06:42:44 Comments: The stereo version of I Wonder Why by Dion & The Belmonts just released on Collectors' Choice is wonderful! Definitely a must-have! Kudos to Tom Moulton for an excellent job on this song! |
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Name: Luke Pacholski Website: LukPac.org From: Racine, WI Time: 1999-01-08 08:34:06 Comments: I have a feeling that unless legal action clears some things up, nothing will come out of ABKCO until Allan Klein dies. What his problem is, I don't know... Since the Stones' catalog is currently in print, I don't see how the royalities issue would stop the release of better Stones CDs. Just a thought... |
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Name: Marty Natchez Time: 1999-01-08 10:58:41 Comments: While we're on the subject of ABKCO's holdback of the Cameo-Parkway catalog, what is the BSN consensus for the best-sounding bootleg CD of Bobby Rydell's biggest hits? Was it on Famous Groove? (not counting the all-stereo "That Old Black Magic") On Campark? On Park? And if anyone recalls which one has "Cherie" in stereo, please post or email me back. Thanks. |
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Name: Mike Arcidiacono Time: 1999-01-08 11:45:11 Comments: Re: Bobby Rydell As far as the bootlegs go, I have "All The Boppin Hits". I think its excellent, they def ran these tracks thru a noise reduction program. You can tell they are from LP, mainly because the fidelity wasnt there in the first place!! But its not bad. The down side to THIS Cd is that it omits some of Bobbys chart records like "Kissing Time". Its got most of them, but it has too much filler. If anybody knows od a boot that has ALL of Bobbys chart hits (even the minor ones toward the end of his Cameo days) that has good fidelity, i'd like to know about it. Till then....this is what we have!! Mikey |
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Name: Joe Reynolds From: Los Angeles Time: 1999-01-08 23:14:14 Comments: RE: Bobby Rydell boots...Don't know if there's a really good one out there, but stay away from "Let The Good Times Roll" on the Bigtop label. Good track selection, almost all of the bigger hits up to "Forget Him" but mostly awful sound with all the highs chopped off. I've seen a posting in the archives claiming that the Park compilation (Original Hit Records?) is a good one, but I have no idea where to find it...any help??? |
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Name: Paul Time: 1999-01-09 15:12:31 Comments: Does anyone have any info about a band called the Primates? They were a Mersey Beat/Garage band from Long Island who had two singles in 1965. The first single is excellent - Knock On My Door/She (Marko 923). I won this 45 back in 1970 at the Topsfield Fair in Massachusetts. It goes for about $50 in mint condition now. They had another single but I've never heard it. I'd love to get these songs on CD - Are they available? I wonder who owns the masters to these songs. I've never seen anything else on the Marko label. It must have been a local Long Island label. The songs were produced by Jack Hansen and written by John Demetrious. Knock On My Door was available on a European bootleg garage band CD collection The Chosen Few 1 & 2 but unfortunately it's out of print. I'm sure it was taken off of vinyl anyway. If anyone has any info please let me know. I've been looking for it on CD for a long time. |
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Name: Paul Time: 1999-01-09 15:22:13 Comments: Does anyone know if the Rubble collection is still available on CD? It was a great collection of obscure British psychedelic stuff that came out in the early '90's on the Bam-Caruso label. I'm looking for the song Faster Than Light by The Mirror and that was on Vol. 1. Is it available anywhere else? I need this song to finish my collection of the Psychedelic Top 50 as compiled by Jon Savage in the Rock'n'Roll Hall Of Fame. I have the other 49 on CD but I need this song. |
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Name: Dave Bishop From: Ohio Time: 1999-01-09 20:37:38 Comments: Has anyone noticed that Dick Bartley is playing true stereo versions of "Dance Dance Dance" by The Beach Boys and "He's So Fine" by The Chiffons? I've heard him play them a couple of times and they are definitely true stereo and the correct hit mixes. Anyone else aware of these? |
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Name: Michael R. Fiedler From: Minneapolis, MN Time: 1999-01-09 21:16:39 Comments: The Bobby Rydell CD on Park (which contains all of his hits, except for a couple of minor songs) is available from DisCollector in Parker, CO. I thought the sound was pretty good, and would rate it a C+ or B-, even though it is a disc dub. |
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Name: Don Duffey From: Buffalo Time: 1999-01-09 21:42:51 Comments: This is for Joe R./Mike A./& Marty N. I ve found the best sounding boot on Bobby Rydell to be a toss up between "All The Hits"on Bar-Barcd-122 or Bobby Rydell "Original Hit Records. Park 556. the Park cd contains the stereo"That Old Black Magic"/"One Girl"/"Cherie"/"Mammy"/"Bobby's Girl"plus I would say most if not all of C/P hits [30 tracks].I found both of these at..Sabre Home Entertainment..beegle@iaw.on.ca Now where do I find the Beach Boys/Beatles Boots that keep appearing on the here??? |
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Name: Tom Daly Website: Skyline Digital Audio Restoration Service From: Metro Boston Time: 1999-01-10 09:30:04 Comments: Some issues I've been asked to address: I know of no plans to reissue the Adam Wade material from Coed at this time, nor whether or not the session tapes of the material are still in existence. On HDCD, DVD and future digital formats, all I can say is that we all know that a mastering engineer can make the difference between which reissues sound good and which ones don't, but until the majors stop using the "Special Products" mentality when furnishing source tapes, the format on which you buy your music won't matter. IMHO, the potential of the compact disc isn't being maximized for the music purchased by readers of this website, so until there's a big wake-up call at the major labels to go back to session tapes or use SDARS (Skyline Digital Audio Restoration System) on mixdown masters or 1st generation production masters, then all we're going to hear on reissues is more-of-the-same. The labels are not concerned with what we buy. They're concerned with million-selling Celine Dion and Backstreet Boys albums, and it's those releases that will benefit from the new technology. The three HDCDs from Buffalo Springfield only serve to illustrate that lousy master tapes will only sound worse on higher-definition media. Where are all the highs on "For What It's Worth?" I've mastered it with highs and with no hiss, but WEA will never issue it because they might have to PAY for my work. They won't spend any cash to improve their catalog product. EMI did, and look what happened. The other majors don't want to follow suit with the Furmanek fiasco at EMI. They put out THREE series (Capitol Collectors' Series, Legendary Masters Series, and Legends of Rock & Roll Series), lost their shirts on the discs, closed up shop and licensed most of the discs to Collectables. Greed has created a paradox: If you're a label, you can't afford to spend money doing digital audio restoration on catalog product that may not sell $10,000 pieces, but then if you don't do digital audio restoration, you can't sell 5,000 copies. The disc will get a "D" from Mike and no one will want it. Let's look at one instance... CEMA Special Markets sent a mono tape of "The Man With All the Toys" by the Beach Boys to Collectables for inclusion on the "WCBS Ultimate Christmas Album, Volume 4." Collectables sent it to an anonymous friend for mastering, whom I happened to be visiting while the project was being done. The mono tape went into the circular file when I supplied a disc dub with SDARS from the original A-1 pressing of "The Beach Boys Christmas Album." With SDARS, I was able to remove the surface noise, hiss and hum under the acapella portions of the song, so now, the Collectables issue has a clean copy of it, rather than the noisy old LP master used on Capitol's "newly-remastered" issue of "The Ultimate Beach Boys' Christmas Album." Why did it happen? Because Collectables paid a mastering engineer who subbed out a digitally restored copy for a piece of junk, and the major label didn't spend any money on digital audio restoration. I rest my case. |
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Name: curt lundgren Website: ReelRadio From: Minneapolis, MN. USA Time: 1999-01-10 10:12:36 Comments: Couple of things....can anyone review "Touch The Wall Of Sound" and "Petula Clark: Classic Collection" from DisCollector? And what is the best source for Pet's U.S. Warner Brothers hits? Also, has anything by the Distant Cousins shown up on CD yet? Specifically, the fabulous "She Ain't Lovin' You (No More) on Date, from 1966. Finally, if we EVER get the Cameo/Parkway stuff, I would be thrilled to death if "Groovy Baby" by Billy Abbott & The Jewels showed up! |
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Name: Michael R. Fiedler From: Minneapolis, MN Time: 1999-01-10 12:33:17 Comments: For Curt Lundgren: The best Petula Clark collection I have found is "Greatest Hits of Petula Clark" on GNP/Crescendo Record Co GNPD-2170; it contains 15 of her 22 chart hits. The disc should be available locally from the Electric Fetus; however if they don't carry it, you can probably secure it from DisCollector in Parker, CO. Mike Callahan gave this one a B rating. To my knowledge the Distant Cousins' "She Ain't Lovin' You" has never showed up on CD. I had to buy the 45 to get a copy of it. |
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Name: Lynn From: ca Time: 1999-01-10 12:47:06 Comments: Yesterday I received Andy Kims Greatest Hits, an import on Capitol from Germany. I purchased it from Music Blvd, used the electronic coupon and it was a total cost $5.48. |
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Name: Randy Price Website: From: New York Time: 1999-01-10 16:44:29 Comments: Concerning the GNP-Crescendo Petula Clark CD, I bought this back in the '80s and was extremely disappointed. The overall sound quality is nowhere near that on the individual Warner Bros. LPs (which themselves had better sound than the Warner Greatest Hits LP, which sounded like it was mastered from later-generation tapes). And some songs on the GNP-Cres. CD have drop-outs and/or a wavering stereo image. Perhaps it's been remastered since then, but I would stick with imports on Sequel or other labels that use the original Pye masters. |
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Name: John Rausch Website: Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes Time: 1999-01-10 18:15:56 Comments: To Curt :I purchased the original Japanese import Touch The Wall Of Sound 3 disc series a few years back and see that has been reissued with the same tracks on 2 cds now. I assume the newer set sounds the same as the original . mostly mono , some stereo.all came directly from the original records with the cedar noise reduction , a few sound as if they came from a tape. overall sound quality is acceptable considering the rarity of most selections,which never made it past the promo copy stage. offhand , if you like this stuff, which I do, then this is the only way to get these gems. some stereo cuts are Cher`s "Dream Baby", and Alder Ray`s "A Little Love Will Go A Long Long Way". There are a few selections I don`t feel have the "wall of sound" but thats my opinion.Overall a good and comprehensive faux Spector sound set with lots of surprises . |
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Name: Mike Arcidiacono From: NYC Time: 1999-01-10 20:56:13 Comments: Re: Petula Clark and Touch The Wall of Sound The best Pet Clark stuff I've seen is on the Sequel label from England. Her hits on these Cds sound FANTASTIC. After years of the HORRIBLE GNP cd, playing these is a revelation. The def used the original masters for these. "My Love", in particular sounds great with the horns in clear, crisp sonics. As far as the TTWOS series, I have 4 of these cds, and for what they are, they are not bad. They are ALL from 45, even some tracks that have appeared on CD before. Still, some of these, like "Happy Anniversary" (which is as close to a Chiffons song as you could get) are very rare, and are wonderfully produced. Spector, no, they are just good girl group records, which I happen to like alot. I would really doubt that we are going to see these anywhere else...so pick up the 2 Cd set, its the best buy. Mikey |
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Name: Bub Time: 1999-01-10 23:09:22 Comments: Hey! Would anyone have complete discography on "Sea of Tunes" Beach Boys releases? Obviously, whoever nailed this load of gems, got the bird's eye view of what's possible in terms of available tapes for release...It would e fun to see for conparison, what Capitol comes up with. Whatcha think, fellow B.Boy fans???? |
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Name: David R. Modny Website: Time: 1999-01-11 12:59:30 Comments: Re: Beach Boys 'Ultimate Xmas' - While I agree with most of what Tom Daly stated about the "Special Products" mentality regarding major labels and remastering - It should be pointed out that the decision NOT to use digital noise reduction, of any sort, on BB's 'Ultmate Xmas', was a philosophical decision ( which you may or may not agree with ), rather than a financial one. Dan Hersch of DigiPrep and Andrew Sandoval, who tracked down the original stereo two-track mixdown of the "64 Xmas tunes", made this decision. I know I may be in the minority here, but I personally don't find objection to some residual master tape hiss ( as opposed to multi-generational hiss buildup ). Although in the past, I have had some real sonic problems with some of the stuff thats come out of DigiPrep ( mostly Inglot - i.e. "The Grassroots" - 'Where Were You When I Needed You'....all "over brightened" midrange...yuck ). With respect to Mr. Daly, being that I haven't heard is work on the Collectables version of "TMWATT" - I've found that on most reissues that use digital noise reduction, coupled with post re-EQ'ing ( the MCA 'Who' and EMI 'Abbey Road Series' reissues come to mind ), the TOTAL abscence of an analog "noise floor" sounds very harsh and unnatural to my ears. The bottom line , for me anyway, is that there is more to good sonics than, just, whether or not tape-hiss exists...IMHO. That said, I would still very much like to hear Tom Daly's work on the tune, and will try and track it down. |
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Name: Tom Daly Website: Skyline Digital Audio Restoration Service From: Metro Boston Time: 1999-01-11 16:36:04 Comments: To those seeking info on the Bobby Rydell CD, "Original Hit Records," Park 556... Most of the mono tracks are not disc dubs, as surface noise is not audible on those tracks. The two stereo tracks ARE disc dubs, as minor surface noise is audible at times. I've used analyzers on this disc, and my equipment tells me what I've just stated. The BigTop disc is completely sourced from vinyl, with the highs rolled-off to mask surface noise. |
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Name: Paul Bigelow From: Austin, TX Time: 1999-01-11 22:05:01 Comments: The best "collection" you are going to find of Petula Clark, in my opinion, is the Sequel "I Love to Sing" 3-CD set. It is a wonderful collection containing early stereo jazzy sides, a few early sixties pre-Tony Hatch pop songs, ALL of the US TOP 40 hits in wonderful stereo. Not to mention rarities and unrealeased songs - many which did not deserve the unreleased fate. Pet's unreleased "Roundabout" (also done by Connie Francis) is a true gem (STEREO too!). Several versions of the Coca-Cola commercials (mono) round out a very, very nice collection. LOTS of stereo. |
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Name: Mike Arcidiacono From: NYC Time: 1999-01-11 22:41:26 Comments: Re Bobby Rydell-- this question is for Tom Daly-- If, as you say, the mono tracks on "Original Hit Records" are NOT from Lp.....then where ARE they from? Do you feel they are from bootleg copies of the CAMEO masters in Sigma Sounds back room? That seems too good to be true. The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps Cameo issued 71/2 ips reel to reel versions of Bobbys Lps, and this Cd is from one of those (supposedly, the Beatles "Capitol Versions" series on BEAT records was made from mint reel to reels). Is is possible that the they DID use an LP for this (like one of the 1971 LPs) that was in mint condition, or even still sealed, and that explains the absence of groove noise? |
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Name: John Zylak From: Canada Time: 1999-01-12 17:46:41 Comments: Does anyone out there know how I could get a hold of JACKIE SHANE:"Live" recorded in 1963 at the Sapphire Club in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. The Label was Sue Records. |
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Name: Dave Sampson Time: 1999-01-14 14:36:47 Comments: Well, here's a weird compilation from those mysterious folks at Stardust - Releasing these titles on the "Jukebox" Label" Its a series of cds called "Jukebox hits" which they have titles out for many years of the 50s and just recently released a batch for the late 1960s. So far I've only bought this one volume because of it's rather strange track lineup. It sounds pretty good(since they tend to use other CDs as sources). It isn't perfect-having tape ripples in "simon says" & "do you know the way to san jose" but oddities like "soul coaxing", "we can fly" & "strawberry shortcake" make it worth while. Here's the track lineup: Juke Box Hits - 1968 - Volume 1 1. LOVE IS BLUE - Paul Mauriat(M) 2. BORN TO BE WILD - Steppenwolf(S) 3. MacARTHUR PARK - Richard Harris(S) 4. VALLERI - The Monkees(S) 5. SIMON SAYS - 1910 Fruitgum Company(S) 6. HOLD ME TIGHT - Johnny Nash(S) 7. STORMY - The Classics IV(S) 8. ANGEL OF THE MORNING - Merrilee Rush(M) 9. REACH OUT OF THE DARKNESS - Friend & Lover(S) 10. DO YOU KNOW THE WAY TO SAN JOSE - Dionne Warwick(S) 11. DREAM A LITTLE DREAM OF ME - Mama Cass(S) 12. Chewy Chewy - OHIO EXPRESS(S) 13. ITCHYCOO PARK - Small Faces(S) 14. HEY MR WESTERN UNION MAN - Jerry Butler(S) 15. ON THE ROAD AGAIN - Canned Heat(S) 16. AM I THAT EASY TO FORGET - Engelbert Humperdinck(S) 17. AUTUMN OF MY LIFE - Bobby Goldsboro(S) 18. WE CAN FLY - The Cowsills(S) 19. BANG SHANG A LANG - The Archies(S) 20. CAB DRIVER - The Mills Brothers(S) 21. SKIP A ROPE - Henson Cargill(S) 22. SOAL COAXING - Raymond Lefevre(S) 23. MR BUSINESSMAN - Ray Stevens(S) 24. STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE - Jay & the Techniques(S) |
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Name: Richard From: Bellingham, Wa. Time: 1999-01-14 16:36:33 Comments: In light of the recent compilation CD's of mono 45 versions of past hits I was wondering if it has been anybody's experience that these "hit" versions are always the same versions as the version found on the monaural version of the vinyl lp that came out at about the same time? |
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Name: Tom Daly Website: Skyline Digital Audio Restoration Service From: Metro Boston Time: 1999-01-14 21:23:37 Comments: TO RICHARD: The original mono Mamas and Papas LPs did not have the 45 versions on them, but merely the stereo mixes combined to one track. "Farewell to the First Golden Era" DID have the 45 versions on the mono pressings, yet the stereo pressings contained the same LP versions as the original LPs. In most cases, the 45s were the only places to get the "hit" versions when a difference existed, otherwise the "hit" version would appear on an LP in electronic stereo (rechannelled). TO MIKE ARCIDIACONO: Tape sources were obviously used for the mono tracks on the Bobby Rydell CD, notable for the absence of surface noise, but I doubt they were from commercially issued tapes, unless perhaps Columbia House issued them on open reel. They sound too clean to be from 7.5ips tapes, anyway. BTW, the BEAT CDs had to have been made from 3.75ips tapes, as Capitol never issued The Beatles on open reel at 7.5ips, and if you compare the BEAT CDs with first pressings of Capitol vinyl, the vinyl has a much more crisp high end. |
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Name: CHAS Time: 1999-01-15 00:10:23 Comments: For Tom:Some of The Beatles "Beat Boots" were issued from 7.5 ips Reel tapes, not just 3.75ips.In 1970 Capitol/Ampex issued 7.5ips Reels of the "American" Beatle releases, These were the source for the "Beat CDs". Another Bootlegger Issued CDRs of all "American" Beatle releases From Capitol/Ampex Tapes. They Claimed that the tapes they used were sealed Capitol/Ampex 7.5ips tapes.The Cdrs were issued in extremely limited Quanities. I dont have all the Reel #s. Here are a few: "Yesterday & Today" Captol/Ampex L-2553-7.5ips......"Revolver" Capitol/Ampex L-2576-7.5ips. |
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Name: Bill Buster From: ERIC Records Time: 1999-01-15 14:02:10 Comments: About that compilation on the "Jukebox" label that Dave Sampson bought: this is not a Stardust release (they just distribute the label). Actually it's just another volume in the voluminous and infamous Jukebox series of bootlegs from Germany(?). As Dave noted the quality in this volume (and most of the other volumes too) is highly erratic. Presumably many of these 1968 songs were dubbed from other CDs but you can never be sure with a bootleg. MORE IMPORTANTLY-all BSN readers should know that "SOUL COAXING" by Raymond Lefevre will be making it's legit US CD premiere very soon on an Eric collection called "Hard To Find Orchestral Instrumentals" along with 19 others lush stringed favorites from the 50s and 60s. Expect the high quality that Eric is known for along with all the stereo that can be found. |
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Name: curt lundgren Website: ReelRadio From: Minneapolis, MN. USA Time: 1999-01-15 16:54:34 Comments: Bill, can you give us a track lineup? (You obviously won't have Parkway 942 "Cast Your Fate To The Winds"/Sounds Orchestral included!) Thanks to all who gave input on my Petula Clark question. I popped for the Sequel package from Tower today.....$22.39 on sale. |
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Name: David Sampson Time: 1999-01-15 16:59:58 Comments: For Bill Buster: Great news about your up and coming Instrumental Collection. Any chance you could post a complete or partial track listing for the CD for us over anxious oldies fans? If not, could you at least tell me if it will contain Reg Owen's "Manhattan Spiritual" In stereo? Thankx in advance. |
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Name: Tom Daly Website: Skyline Digital Audio Restoration Service From: Metro Boston Time: 1999-01-15 20:00:19 Comments: I'll just put my two cents in here. Sounds Orchestral's "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" was leased by Cameo-Parkway from Pye (UK), which I believe is now owned by Castle Communications. |
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Name: Joe Reynolds From: Los Angeles Time: 1999-01-16 00:05:32 Comments: RE:Bobby Rydell's "Original Hit Records" on Park 556..just picked up a copy from Discollector. By far the best Rydell set I've heard. Some tracks (Forget Him, Kissing Time) are outstanding, but "Volare" and "Wild One" sound like worn out 45's. Those unfortunate exceptions noted, I'm happy with this until the real deal comes along (if ever). $18.99 plus tax and license..uh, I mean UNlicensed. |
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Name: Steve Massie Time: 1999-01-16 18:51:56 Comments: Now that we're getting to the mastering phase, I thought I'd post the track line-up for the two "Varese/Discoveries Magazine Presents" stereo CDs that should be out in April. Keep in mind ALL these tracks are true stereo, one for the first time ever and several first-timers on CD. Disc One is called "Discoveries Presents Stereo Oldies" and contains: 1. Not One Minute More-Della Reese (previously ONLY on an RCA stereo single) 2. Five O'Clock World-The Vogues 3. Go, Jimmy, Go-Jimmy Clanton 4. Snap Your Fingers-Joe Henderson 5. It Was I-Skip & Flip 6. You'll Lose A Good Thing--Barbara Lynn (the three-track mix used by Bear Family) 7. Heart & Soul-Jan & Dean 8. You Can Never Stop Me Loving You-Johnny Tillotson 9. So This Is Love-The Castells 10. Anna-Arthur Alexander 11. Nag-The Halos 12. Just As Much As Ever-Bob Beckham 13. Loop De Loop--Johnny Thunder 14. Pineapple Princess-Annette. Volume Two is "Discoveries Magazine Presents Stereo Instrumental Oldies" and contains: 1. Manhattan Spiritual-Reg Owen!!(Cary Mansfield and Marty Wekser found out who owns that track and the other Palette singles) 2. Patricia-Perez Prado 3. Midnight In Moscow-Kenny Ball 4. Wheels-String-A-Longs 5. Alley Cat-Bent Fabric 6. Cast Your Fate To The Wind-Vince Guaraldi Trio 7. Watermelon Man-Mongo Santamaria 8. Rebel Rouser-Duane Eddy (first time stereo ever) 9. Gravy Waltz-Steve Allen 10. The Enchanted Sea-The Islanders 11.Tracy's Theme-Spencer Ross 12. Limbo Rock-The Champs 13.Calcutta-Lawrence Welk 14. Yellow Bird-Arthur Lyman. By the way, "I Saw Her Again" is the correct single version on the mono Mama's and Papa's LP and the Sounds Orchestral version of "Cast Your Fate To The Wind" has shown up on several CDs including one of the two Dick Bartley CDs that Rhino put out several years ago. And Tom Daly is correct, that cut was simply licensed to Cameo/Parkway by Pye and does belong to Castle. Pye did business in this country with whatever label was willing to release their product. That's why you saw so many Pye artist on so many different labels in the US. Cameo/Parkway also released a couple singles by the Ivy League that were owned by Pye in England. |
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Name: Chris Nagel From: Indiana Time: 1999-01-16 19:09:58 Comments: To Steve Massie: Will the two Varese/Discoveries CDs be available at retail/online stores or just from the magazine? Thanks and I'm looking forword to owning both releases. |
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Name: don baylis Website: Sabre Home Entertainment From: Niagara Falls Time: 1999-01-16 20:54:45 Comments: Re Manhattan Spiritual - Reg Owen and its upcoming release on the Varese CD ... I hope this is NOT the stereo version that was on the original stereo LP of the same name on Palette as that was a totally different version from the 45. If there was a stereo version of the 45 release, why was that not used on the lp instead of a re-recorded one? |
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Name: Paul Bigelow From: Austin, TX Time: 1999-01-17 01:11:40 Comments: I must have missed this somehow, but is there any info on the stereo content of the two Elvis '68 "Comeback Special" packages put out by RCA/BMG recently? I know the big set pieces have been in stereo on record and on CD but how about the "in the round" sit down jams? Thanks! |
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Name: Dave Time: 1999-01-17 03:58:19 Comments: Re: Elvis Comeback CDs: The 2 sit-down jam sessions & the stand-up black leather suit session were only recorded in MONO sadly. So stereo content on the 2 new CDs is limited ... "Tiger Man CD" is totally MONO, "Memories 2CD set" - 2nd CD also totally MONO, 1st CD is mainly STEREO except for the "Live" cuts including the song 'Memories'. So only 'Trouble/Guitar Man', 'Gospel Medley', 'Road Medley' & 'If I can dream' are in STEREO! |
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Name: curt lundgren Website: ReelRadio From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Time: 1999-01-17 10:14:55 Comments: Steve, thanks for posting the track lineup for the upcoming Varese/Discoveries CDs. I am particulary stoked to learn "Snap Your Fingers" will be TS! And as always, thanks to Cary Mansfield. Just think, guys, he gets PAID to do what we'd all love to be a part of for nuthin'! |
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Name: graham From: CO Time: 1999-01-17 10:50:10 Comments: Just back from leave for about a month with no computer. Regarding Campark. Have the whole series; ? and The Mysterians, Orlons, The Tymes, Chubby Checker(2CDS),Bobby Rydell, all thier hits all originals and they are excellent. As an oldies collector (since I was 14, now I'm 38) just got a copy of Dave Clark Five on CD all stereo, very wide and very cool all Original, 14 cuts. All the hits too except Over and Over. Also got The Great Lost Female Teen Idols which is excellent. One of notice is Stereo version of "Sixteen Reasons" and a long version with cold ending of "Angel Baby"(not stereo). Also got Drifters and Ben E. Kings CDs (Mr. C reviewed them last update)from collectables with all original stereo hits, "Stand By ME" sounds awesome!!! One question about the Collectable CD's. On the label of all the Ben E King and Drifter CD's it says Manufactured by Rhino Entertainment Company.? Produced under license from Altantic Recording Corp.? Copyright 1998 Collectabes Records Corp.?... Is it from Collectables, Rhino or Atlantic?????? Still looking for Charle Gracie's "Butterfly", have Andy Williams' (both were #1). |
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Name: David Clark From: ottawa Time: 1999-01-17 10:58:44 Comments: To Don Baylis, Re Manhattan Spiritual - I think you've missed something here. The mono 45 is available on CD already (on Teen Beat Volume 2 from Ace), so I certainly hope this IS the stereo version that I heard on Dick Bartley's show some years ago. If it's a different version than the 45 (that just happened to be re-recorded for a stereo LP done at about the same time as the 45), then fine, as long as the "hit" 45 is out already. It's these alternate versions that keeps my collecting exciting!! |
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Name: don baylis Website: Sabre Home Entertainment From: Niagara, Ont. Time: 1999-01-17 15:27:24 Comments: David Clark .. I guess this is just a matter of 'to each his own'. Original stereo to me means the 'Original' recording ... not a separate recording done for an lp because the single happened to become an unexpected hit. The lp version of 'Manhattan' is quite noticeably different, and not, to my ear, anywhere near as good. I suggest that if anything, Reg Owen and Palette should have not re-recorded Manhattan, instead putting the mono version on the album, all other tracks being newly recorded stereo. There is precedent for this. Coral Records released the Demensions LP 'Over The Rainbow', which single had been a hit on Mohawk. Ten of the tracks are stereo, 'Over The Rainbow' and the flip 'Nursery Rhyme Rock' are mono - obviously the masters were purchased from Mohawk - and rather than re-record those two tracks and lose the sound that made them a hit, they were put on the lp in all their mono glory. Alternately, Dave 'Baby' Cortez had a hit on Clock with The Happy Organ .. the Cortez stereo LP of the same name was released on RCA and was a new recording ... highly disappointing. I agree that 'alternate' takes from way back when are great to hear ... I just don't accept the stereo Manhattan as an alternate, rather it is/was a rip-off as whoever bought the album would not have received that which they thought they were buying, which is a true stereo version of the hit 45. |
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Name: Tom Daly Website: Skyline Digital Audio Restoration Service From: Metro Boston Time: 1999-01-18 08:28:31 Comments: I will check this again, but Palette issued a stereo 45 of "Manhattan Spiritual." I recently A-B'd the mono one issued by ACE (UK) on TEEN BEAT, VOLUME 2 and the one I was given on CD-R from a stereo 45. The last time I checked, I could have sworn they were the same, but I will check again. Palette could have pulled a "Patricia," where the original WAS cut in stereo, but only issued on a stereo 45, where the LP had a remake. Besides, if I was a label issuing the track, I'd go for a stereo issue because it's been elusive all these years. The mono one's around for anyone who wants it. Most people have been clammoring for the stereo one, remake or not. |
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Name: Steve Massie Time: 1999-01-18 13:47:07 Comments: To Tom Daly...you are absolutely correct about "Manhattan Spiritual"!! Having just finished mastering it for the Varese "Discoveries" project and then "A-B"ing it with the mono single version on the Ace CD, I can corroborate what you're saying. Except for some minor speed variations and the fact the stereo version is a few seconds longer, they are EXACTLY the same versions. |
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Name: Kristjan Saag From: Sweden Time: 1999-01-18 19:59:02 Comments: Anyone know of a song probably entitled "Sometimes", released in 1964 in Britain, possibly in the US too? The only thing I remember from the lyrics is..."Sometimes I will...//...wondering what to do". Not much info, I'm afraid - but someonne must have heard it and remember it. It was not a hit. Kristjan |
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Name: Marty Wekser From: Los Angeles Time: 1999-01-19 02:59:28 Comments: Reading with interest the many comments regarding the song MANHATTAN SPIRITUAL by Reg Owen. For those really interested in differences between the mono and stereo mixes, final timings of each, speed variations, different take numbers, colors of original Palette label, personal bio., how he came to record this hit instrumental single in the first place and why he turned down an opportunity to join Johnny and the Hurricanes, check the website: http://www.reg owen spiritual news&info. |
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Name: Paul Stoddard Website: From: Boston, MA Time: 1999-01-19 08:04:01 Comments: Gee, I thought it was January 19, not April 1! |
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Name: Tom Daly Website: Skyline Digital Audio Restoration Service From: Metro Boston Time: 1999-01-19 14:16:52 Comments: To: Kristjan Saag... I believe the song in question is, "Sometimes" by The Dave Clark Five, which appeared on the U.S. release, "American Tour" on Epic. Alas, this album was never released in true stereo, although two cuts on it were mixed and reissued in stereo: "Because," and "Whenever You're Around." |
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Name: Greg T. From: Rome, N.Y. Time: 1999-01-19 17:57:46 Comments: Regarding the Cameo-Packway material on Campark label, where can the CDs be purchased? Even if it is not top quality at least we collectors could have something from Cameo-Parkway before we all are dead. By the way, does anyone know if Alain Klein still has the masters in his possession? Also how is the quality on the Campark material, not that it matters much because I have waited long enough to get Cameo-Parkway material on CD. Right now I think I would take about anything within reason. Thanks for any info on this subject. |
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Name: don baylis Website: Sabre Home Entertainment From: Niagara Ont. Time: 1999-01-19 19:44:58 Comments: Greg T ... not sure where Rome is but if anywhere near Niagara Falls we carry the Park lable Cameo-Parkway either in store or through mail order! |
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Name: Graham From: San Jose Ca but live in Co Time: 1999-01-19 22:22:10 Comments: Hi, just finished my Campark Collection. Got Charlie Gracie and The Dovells CDs. Also I got Mary Hopkin greatest hits that Mr. C reviewed a couple of years ago. Also if you want to get the Dion and the Belmonts CD with "I Wonder Why" in stereo (plus studio talk) you have to call "Collectors Choice Music". You can only buy it through them until after February. Plus I'm sorry about the DC 5 Cd I told you about a couple of days ago. It was made from a record and it has some surface noise but it sounds excellent. It did not come from a studio. Thanx for the E-mails. |
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Name: Joe From: Oceanport,NJ Time: 1999-01-20 17:46:54 Comments: Can someone confirm for me a different stereo mix of "Happy Together" on Rhino's 1967 Billboard R&R Hits comp ? I remember hearing it and it sounded different to me from the Greatest Hits disc also on Rhino...Thanks for any help!!!! Does anyone know if every version of "For What It's Worth" by Buffalo Springfield has the dropout in the same place on the vocal "beware" in the beginning of the song--does the mono version have this or is it just on the stereo mix?????? |
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Name: Sharene Time: 1999-01-20 19:34:42 Comments: Please, please, please!!!!!, I am trying to find an oldies site where I can order actual filmed oldies performances. I found it once a long time ago, when I didn't understand about bookmarking. I am desperate to get performances, not just the music, to see them singing the songs. One in particular that is driving me crazy is" Ferry Cross the Merzy" I saw it available on that site. I also remember something mentioned about Hulabaloo, ont that site, I don't know if that is a company or what. NOw I can afford to buy the videos, but I can't find them. I have been using the search engines etc no luck. Help!! |
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Name: Christopher Kissel From: Long Island, NY Time: 1999-01-20 19:50:28 Comments: A series of 8 volumes of the old NBC-TV show Hullabaloo was released by MPI video in 1995. They appear to been released separately as well as two slipcased collections of the first 4 and the last 4 volumes. I was fortunate to have found the two slipcased collections locally. Each tape runs for about an hour and I can highly recommend the complete set! I have seen the videos locally at Borders so I would imagine that they are available from a number of retailers. |
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Name: Jerry Griffith From: Regina, Sask. CANADA Time: 1999-01-20 23:20:32 Comments: Hello all! This is for Sharene and anyone else who may be interested. I found a site which contains a lot on classic rock including videos, music sources, radio stations, links and more. I haven't had the time to check it out but it seems promising. The site - classicrock.miningco.com |
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Name: David Sampson Time: 1999-01-21 10:40:00 Comments: Joe: Re "Happy Together" - yes, a number of the Billboard Rock & Roll series were remastered with much better sound-and even the track lineups changed(likley due to licensing problems when they remastered them). for instance-the original volume of 1961 included "Take good care of my baby" -Bobby Vee, "please Mr. Postman" - Mavelettes, "Mother In Law" -Ernie K Doe & "The Lion Sleeps tonight" -The Tokens. Those songs were replaced with "I like it Like That" - Chris Kenner, "Daddy's Home" - Shep & The Limelites, "Stand by Me"-Ben E. King & "Goodbye Cruel World" - James Darren. I dont have the oritginal 1967-but the new one definately has a different mix of the Turtles "Happy Together". Although I don't have the original single to compare to-the Canadian stereo Pressing of the LP has "Happy Together" in mono-and the mix on the Billboard disc sounds very much like that mono mix. The background vocals, flutes & horns are more noticable in the mix. If you haven't heard it, its worth checking out. |
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Name: Steve Baird From: Baton Rouge, LA Time: 1999-01-21 21:33:30 Comments: All this talk reminded me of the best CD source I have yet to hear for "Happy Together". Although it is the same take that appears on several other compilations, including Time-Life's Super Hits - 1967, and Rhino's Billboard series, Rhino's L'IL BIT O' GOLD SAMPLER (73000) has the most dynamic and clean sounding "Happy Together" of the 7 different copies in my collection. You might recall that both Rhino and MCA released a number of the three-inch CDs about 1986 or so. Which reminds me. Although they have been out of print for more than ten years, does anyone know of a source for any of the releases in the L'il Bit O' Gold Series? I have about ten of them; a friend here in town has about 52 of them, and I believer there were about 65 titles in the series. Some of you also might remember that Sony introduced a portable CD player that would play only the little 3-inch disks. Now THAT would really be a conversation piece. |
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Name: Mike Arcidiacono From: nyc Time: 1999-01-22 20:16:08 Comments: Re: 3 inch Cds.......boy, do I remember those!! I have two of them , Gary Lewis and Jan Bradley. I would have bought more, but you needed an adaptor to play them, and the one I had broke!! What was interesting is that the Gary Lewis had the wrong version of "Sure Gonna Miss Her", it had the "fast drums" version rather than the horn version. And yes, I DO remember the little player that Sony had for them. If remember correctly, the player was tiny, and the disk stuck out while it was spinning!! Also, re Happy Together, this is a mystery...why would THAT version sound so much better than the others?? I mean, I'm sure they used the same digital master that the other Cds did for that version (mono, I guess) . They didnt remaster just for that series, did they? Rhino had released a Turtles Hits package which I had, but I dont remember if the mono HT was on it. Maybe they DID remaster that song. Kinda wierd tho, that a 1985 mastering job sounds better than the ones done recently for the Cd versions of the Turtles LPs on Sundazed. |
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Name: graham From: CO Time: 1999-01-23 13:17:23 Comments: Hi. Just listening to the new "Complete Dion & Belmonts" on collectors' choice music. The 2 cd set sounds good. "I Wonder Why" sounds excellent in stereo but has just a tad of an echo. "Teenager in Love" has never sounded better. Someone prove me wrong on this but I think this has the best sounding "Teenager in Love" I have ever heard! "Where or When" although in MONO has never sounded better either! I highly recommend this CD. |
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Name: Frank From: St. Louis Time: 1999-01-23 13:51:05 Comments: Havent you guys heard of Kenny G and Yanni? |
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Name: Randy Price Website: From: New York Time: 1999-01-23 14:48:14 Comments: Re: The Turtles and CD-3s: "Happy Together" is stereo on both the Rhino 20 Greatest Hits CD and on the Little Bit Of Gold CD-3. And Steve is right--the sound quality on the CD-3 is a notch above the Hits CD (the remastered version, which itself was an upgrade from the original release made in Japan by Sanyo). As for playing CD-3s, you may not need an adaptor. If you can center the disc in your player's tray and close it without the disc being jostled too much, the disc's center hole will find the spindle inside, and the disc will play normally. |
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Name: Steve Baird From: Baton Rouge Time: 1999-01-23 17:02:31 Comments: RE: 3" CDs: I have 19 of 'em. 9 Rhino L'il Bit O' Golds (The sampler that you got directly from Rhino, and no other way; the Fleetwoods, Chordettes, Jan & Dean, Turtles, Classics IV, Little Anthony, Bobby Vee, & Gene Vincent) and 10 from the MCA Vintage Gold CD3 series. The Rhinos were issued at various times, and only the first issues had the adaptor; subsequent releases required you to buy an adaptor If you did not have one of the newer players that would play them without it. All of the MCAs came from one of those "Everything's a Dollar" stores you'll find in malls. When it was clear that the format was to fail commercially, I bought them just to have 'em and I would have bought more if I could have found them. All of the Rhinos are © 1988, as are all of the MCAs except 3 -- which are from 1989. I also have one of the Rhino cardboard inserts that lists 50 of the disks in the series. The friend who has more than 50 of the Rhinos and I have compared the various 3" and have found that in nearly ALL cases the 3-inchers are more dynamic and exciting to listen to. WE TWO AGREE THAT THE ABSOLUTE BEST OF THE LOT IS THE LITTLE ANTHONY, but the Fats Domino on the sampler is so transparent it's scary. Only Bill Inglot knows why they sound better than the 5-inch CDs; and since the bulk of them aren't mono, he's not saying anything. |
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Name: Steve Baird From: Baton Rouge Time: 1999-01-23 17:13:02 Comments: To Frank -- Yeah, I've heard of Yanni and Kenny G, but that's musical wallpaper. I've heard of the Carpenters too. But this discussion area is for people who enjoy REAL music. I'll bet you like Garth Brooks too. [ -- Musical wallpaper? Let's not be casting aspersions on other people's taste in music. You like what you like, others may not. Let's not clutter up the board with opinions on what's "real" music and what's not. That's the sort of talk we heard when rock & roll got started, remember? There oughta be a country song titled, "Somebody help me, I'm turning into my parents!!" -- MC] |
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Name: graham From: Co Time: 1999-01-23 19:10:51 Comments: Ditto Steve!! |
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Name: Paul Carr Time: 1999-01-25 12:34:05 Comments: Is the version of Mr.Tambourine Man on the newly remastered Byrds "Mr. Tambourine Man" CD the same wide stereo mix found on the "20 Essential Tracks From The Box Set" CD or is this a new mix? |
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Name: Luke Pacholski Website: LukPac.org From: Racine, WI Time: 1999-01-25 13:59:38 Comments: Re: Byrds - Since I am guessing the mix on the 20 tracks CD is the same as the box, the mix on the new CD *is* different. The box set mix is narrow and fairly muddy - the mix on the new MTM CD is *wide* and very clear. Certainly the best available. The entire CD is great, for that matter... |
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Name: David R. Modny Time: 1999-01-25 16:08:52 Comments: Re: Mr Tambourine Man - The mix on "20 Essential Tracks" was actually an upgrade from the box set. This is the ONLY track on the disc that was actually different from the box set, as the complete multi-tracks were discovered after the box set, but before "20" was released. I don't own "20", but I was under the asumption that "MTM" was then remixed, once again, for the "Mr. Tambourine Man" CD reissue. |
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Name: Paul Carr Time: 1999-01-25 17:58:10 Comments: Just got the new remastered version of the Carpenters "Yesterday Once More" 2 CD Set. The order is slightly different and they've added one song to it, "I Just Fall In Love Again." As far as the remastering goes, it sucks. Maybe they used first generations tapes because it sounds a lot cleaner than the original CD, but the engineers taste in EQ is awful. They removed the hiss at the expense of high end and more importantly high end spacial ambience. They also added low end where there never was any before in such a drastic way that in an A-B comparison the mixes on the new CD sound very muddy. Muddy to the point that you lose a lot of clarity in Karen's voice and detail in some of the instruments. It would be awful if they thought they should fatten up the mixes to make them sound more contemporary. I use the word "they" because it doesn't say who did the remastering which is kind of strange. You have to go with the names you love and trust. I'm a producer/engineer myself so I have a great system with which to do these A-B comparisons, and although there are some merits to the new CD, such as cleaner sound, I'll stick to the old one solely based on the EQ alone. Doesn't that suck that with all the technology and availability of first generation tapes, that EQ decisions can ruin a CD. That happens a lot these days, so you can't just buy a remastered CD on the basis of "mastered from first generation tapes-20 Bit Super Mapping",etc. I only bought this CD and Singles 1969-1973, so I have no opinion on the other remasters. Let me know if they are any better. |
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Name: Pat Downey From: Boulder, CO Time: 1999-01-26 23:18:31 Comments: For those of you interested in the Rhino 3" cd's in the Lil' Bit Of Gold series, I have the following cd's that I would love to sell off: Lettermen, Brenton Wood,Gary Lewis & The Playboys, Raspberries, Les Paul & Mary Ford, Bobby Fuller Four, Jan & Dean, Dells, Classics IV, Betty Everett, Jive Five, Jay & The Americans, Bo Diddley, Bo Diddley II, and the Ventures. Make me a reasonable offer on the whole batch please. My e-mail address is patdowney@uswest.net. |
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Name: Joe Reynolds From: Los Angeles Time: 1999-01-27 00:54:42 Comments: Anyone know of a good Bobby Darin "best of" cd with both the Atco/Atlantic and Capitol hits on it? Is there a single disc with this material cross-licensed? |
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Name: Paul Bigelow From: Austin, TX Time: 1999-01-27 09:56:43 Comments: I'll jump into this foray. I think what Steve was getting at was the possible tone of Frank's post - a comment with no clearly understood point. Frank's post seemed to me more like a parent's reaction to rock and roll - akin to "why don't you listen to real music". Hopefully we're reading too much into this. I suspect discussions of Yanni and Kenny G do not come up because the main focus of this group is stereo OLDIES. I also know that many artists from many genres are touched upon - that's great! I'm sure postings for Yanni and Kenny G would be welcome if the point was to discuss sonic quailty, variations of mixes, etc. I have yet to hear complaints about Yanni being in mono. Of course if ABKCO got hold of Yanni's masters... Off the soapbox. Anyway, these postings of Dion make me wish Bear Family would get a set done of the Laurie material. Ace went through the tapes years ago - is the "I Wonder Why" a new find? Did I see Tom Moulton posted as the mastering engineer? Did he find other Dion goodies? |
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Name: Marty Natchez Time: 1999-01-27 13:03:07 Comments: In a recently printed newspaper review of "The Complete Dion and the Belmonts," I made mention of the fact that neither of the original 45 versions of "When You Wish Upon a Star" and "In the Still of the Night" were included. I consulted with Tom Moulton about this, and while he insists that Take 7 of "In the Still..." was the hit, from the point where Dion sings "Dooo ooo you love me....," the phrasing is completely different than what is heard on the mono 45 or on the correct stereo version that's found on Ace's two-fer import CD. Is anybody willing to confirm this, too? And thanks to all who recommended the Bobby Rydell Park CD "Original Hit Records" as the best-sounding collection out there. Now that I have it, I must report that ALL the tracks do come from vinyl sources. No tapes were used. Nada. The end. |
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Name: Graham From: CO Time: 1999-01-28 19:30:31 Comments: Hey, just got the BEATLES box set of the first four early european CDS in STEREO. Also got a Mike Nesmith CD with "Joanne" on it, both CDs are IMPORTS. Anyone else got them. Also listening to The "Dovells" Bristol Stomp CD and It sounds good. Also listened to Charlie Gracie's "...Fabulous" 27 tracks and it sounds excellent too. That completes my collection. Got "Twist With Chubby Checker", "Limbo Rock"(Stereo), Bobby Rydells "Original Hit Records", The Tymes "So Much In Love" 30 tracks (Some Stereo), ? & The Mysterians, "96 Tears" 30 Greatest Hits and The Orlons "All Their Hits & More". |
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Name: Mike Arcidiacono From: nyc Time: 1999-01-28 21:40:34 Comments: Re: Bobby Vee-- can anyone tell me who is carrying the Bobby Vee -"Essentials" 2 Cd set? I really want to get it. thanks! Mikey |
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Name: Randy Price Website: From: New York Time: 1999-01-29 00:20:58 Comments: Just picked up the new Very Best of the Dixie Cups on Collectables (COL 6024). All but three of the 16 tracks are stereo (those three are single B-sides). Overall, the sound quality comes close to that of the Taragon Red Bird/Blue Cat comp. For four of the five tracks that appear on both, the mixes are similar; "Little Bell" is the exception, sounding much better on the Taragon. All in all, an excellent job. Here's hoping there's more to come! |
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Name: Joel Goldenberg From: Montreal Time: 1999-01-29 21:42:31 Comments: Regarding the Carpenters' remasters, the remasterers are Richard Carpenter and Bernie Grundman, who originally mastered many Carpenters LPs. That info was hard to find, but it's on the part of the jewel box usually covered by the disc itself, in very small writing. By the way, thanks to changes at Polygram/Universal Music, the Carpenters are now on IGA Records (Interscope/Geffen/A &M). Do I have to buy their CDS at a supermarket now? |
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Name: Steve Baird From: Baton Rouge Time: 1999-01-30 13:13:31 Comments: More on Rhino 3-inch CDs. I have FIVE of these FACTORY SEALED in their blister packs with the long cardboard insert listing many of the others in the series. Anyone interested in these as a GROUP only please get in touch with me ........ FOUR SEASONS II (73029) .......... TODD RUNDGREN (73025) .......... LITTLE ANTHONY & THE IMPERIALS (73013) ..........JAN & DEAN (73011) .......... CLASSICS IV (73004) |
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Name: Barry Cashion From: Mooresville, NC Time: 1999-01-30 18:41:45 Comments: I recently bought the revamped four-volume 45'S On CD series, mainly out of curiosity, just to see how they stack up to the great original three-volume series. I would rate them all solid "B"s soundwise; the sound is excellent without much hiss or noise, but is still just slightly down a notch from the original series. These CDs also illustrate a favorite pet peeve of mine; they don't make good use of available disc space. With each volume having only ten cuts, they really could have fit the whole series on two CDs with room to spare (but that wouldn't be as profitable, huh...) The packaging here is also a step down from the first incarnations; the original three volumes were first-class all-around, with great graphics and liner notes. Although the labels of these discs are cute reproductions of 45s with the blue Philips, pin-wheel Mercury, blue Fontana, and black Verve labels, the packaging is otherwise standard special-products quality, with no liner notes other than the song listings and a few timing mistakes on the covers. Oh yes, and special-products strikes again, with a few unexpected monos. If you missed getting the original series, the cuts in common with this series are pretty close to comparable sound quality here, so these CDs would be a good place to get them if you don't already have them; for many songs, though, their appearances on "Rock 'N' Roll Relix" sound better... Anyway, here are the track line-ups: 45'S On CD, Vol. 1 (1962-1964) Polygram Special Markets 314 520 516-2--Hey Paula-Paul & Paula (M)/It's My Party-Lesley Gore (S)/Dominique-Singing Nun (M)/You Don't Have To Be A Baby To Cry-Caravelles (M)/Navy Blue-Diane Renay (M)/Don't Let The Rain Come Down (Crooked Little Man)-Serendipity Singers (S)/Wishin' And Hopin'-Dusty Springfield (sounds like E to me)/My Boyfriend's Back-Angels (S, 2:38, package says 2:14)/Leader Of The Pack-Shangri-las (M)/Follow The Boys-Connie Francis (S). Vol. 2 (1964-1965) PSM 314 520 495-2--You Don't Own Me-Lesley Gore (S)/King Of The Road-Roger Miller (M)/I Can Never Go Home Anymore-Shangri-las (M)/Keep On Dancing-Gentrys (M)/You've Got Your Troubles-Fortunes (M, 3:21)/You Were On My Mind-We Five (M)/Wooly Bully-Sam The Sham (S)/Game Of Love-Wayne Fontana & Mindbenders (M)/Little Honda-Hondells (S)/Ain't She Sweet-Beatles (M). Vol. 3 (1966) PSM 314 520 509-2--Lightning Strikes-Lou Christie (S)/The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore-Walker Bros. (S)/Li'l Red Riding Hood-Sam The Sham (M)/You Don't Have To Say You Love Me-Dusty Springfield (S)/A Groovy Kind Of Love-Mindbenders (M)/Sunny-Bobby Hebb(S)/Soul & Inspiration-Righteous Bros. (S, 3:21, package says 3:04)/Walk Away Renee-Left Banke (S)/Winchester Cathedral-New Vaudeville Band (M)/Wild Thing-Troggs (M). Vol. 4 (1967-1969) PSM 314 520 512-2--The Rain, The Park And Other Things-Cowsills (M)/98.6-Keith (S)/Apples Peaches Pumpkin Pie-Jay & Techniques (S)/Society's Child-Janis Ian (M)/Love Is All Around-Troggs (M)/(We Ain't Got) Nothing Yet-Blues Magoos (S)/Come On Down To My Boat-Every Mother's Son (S)/Love Is Blue-Paul Mauriat (S)/Sunday Will Never Be The Same-Spanky & Our Gang (S)/Na Na Hey Hey (Kiss Him Goodbye)-Steam (S, 4:12). Whew! That's all for now... |
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Name: Ed Steklasa From: Ely MN Time: 1999-01-31 09:55:21 Comments: Two questions: !.) MCA put out a six vinyl LP set called "The Complete Buddy Holly" back in the late 1970's. Was this released on CD's ? 2.) Does anyone know where to find (and can verify that they have actually heard) Chet Atkins' top 100 hits "Boo Boo Stick Beat" and "Teensville" in true stereo on CD? I have monos on ACE like eveyone else does and I have "Teensville" on vinyl. |
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